Meeting called to order 8:30 July 28th, 2003 Attendance: Today | v A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd A a----------- Drew Lynch A a Jay Lawrence A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick A a Francoise Martinolle A a Dennis Brophy - aaaaaaaaa-aa Gordon Vreugdenhil - a Steven Dovich dovich@cadence.com - a Karen Bartleson - --aaaaaaaaaa Dennis Marsa - --aa-a---aaa Clifford E. Cummings - ----a------- Mehdi Mohtashemi - ----------aa Erich Marchner - -----------a Peter Flake 1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation. 2) The group discussed Shalom's amendments to the minutes (as he sent in via email) of the previous meeting, amendments which were accepted unanimously by the committee, and the minutes as amended were approved. 3) Report of the 2001c Project Shalom reported he has finished editing the body of the document; still needs to do contents and index. consisting of just the editorial errors. This work needs to be reviewed by the committee, to catch errors of omission and commission. An open issue is what to call the reprinted version; they will come up with something. Shalom has also prepared a document that list the approved substantive changes, which is in Andy's hands for editing, and will be attached as errata to the reprint. IEEE editor reports good progress. Mac to call Andy to push on decision on what to call the new edition; and to get schedule and reprint details firmed up. People from Cadence, Synplicity and perhaps Synopsys will review the text for accuracy and correctness. 4) Report on User survey Jay Lawrence & Stu report that on Friday they sent out a sample of the proposed survey form. Shalom had three questions; it was decided to add a box for an optional email address, and a check box for 'I want to join the committee'. it was decided to reword item 45 'Enable the Future'. Brad raised issues on a number of other questions which were discussed. Some confusing items were removed. delete 48 and 49; adding line for additional suggestions to user_survey@verilog.com Motion made to approve this survey and authorize the User Survey Committee to use it to solicit input from users at forums in mid September. Moved by Kurt; Seconded by Brad. Motion passed unanimously. Attendees at the time were: A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd A a----------- Drew Lynch A a Jay Lawrence A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick A a Francoise Martinolle A a Dennis Brophy 5) The chair then reminded everyone to send in IEEE roster data updates, and Join DASC by filling out the form at 6) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata Task Force. Those eligible to vote at this meeting were: A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty Those present, but not currently eligible A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch A a----------- Drew Lynch A a Jay Lawrence A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick A a Francoise Martinolle A a Dennis Brophy Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted. Issue 6: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders Steven Sharp raised issues with wording; Shalom modified it to: "Parameters may be redefined using the defparam statements (12.2.1) or module instance parameter value assignments (12.2.2) within the generate scope." Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously as amended Issue 13: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve Amendment: Replace the following example module tb4; // declarations & code ... // mod_a instance with ILLEGAL mixture of parameter assignments // by order and by name vdff #(10, .delay(15)) mod_a (.out(out_a), .in(in_a), .clk(clk)); vdff mod_b (.out(out_b), .in(in_b), .clk(clk)); vdff #(.delay(12)) mod_c (.out(out_c), .in(in_c), .clk(clk)); endmodule With // mod_a instance with ILLEGAL mixture of parameter assignments vdff #(10, .delay(15)) mod_a (.out(out_a), .in(in_a), .clk(clk)); Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously as amended Issue 93: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 117: Moved by Steve, Seconded by Karen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 139: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 140: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Kurt Opposed: Steve Sharp Abstain: none Motion passes Issue 232: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 235: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 236 was closed by the ETF. Issue 238: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 239: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 243: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 244: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 249: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 259: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 260: Moved by Brad, Seconded by Karen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 262: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 263: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Stefen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 264: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Amendment to the minutes Issue 265: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 267: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously Issue 269: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Drew Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes unanimously 7) Meeting was adjourned at 10:33am